January 16, 2025

It’s All About the Money

It’s all about the money… until it isn’t.  Ron Howrigon, a former health insurance executive with some of the largest insurance companies in the U.S., takes us behind the scenes to look at how these companies put profit over patients, why he left the business, and what he’s doing now to help doctors fight the very industry he started in.
Podcast Hosts Matt Ramsey and Wendy Dean, MDs

Episode PREVIEW: It's All About the Money

by 43cc Podcast | The Truth About Healthcare with a Shot to Dull the Pain

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This episode offers valuable insights into the inner workings of health insurance companies and highlights the challenges faced by healthcare providers and patients due to profit-driven motives. Listeners interested in healthcare reform and the dynamics between insurance companies and medical professionals will find this discussion particularly enlightening.

 

“The personal is political.” Carol Hanish

“Unlike other industries where profit maximization also produces a better product, in healthcare they make money by people not using their product or them not allowing people to use their product. It’s a very perverse incentive. It’s a money driven thing.” 

 

 

 

 

 

Notes & Resources

43cc wants to be factual and informational and be hopeful in a way that provides a mechanism to get through this mess and try to be better together.

Flatlining with cohost Ron Howrigon

Moral injury plays a major role in this circumstance as well.

If I Betray These Words… By Wendy Dean, MD

Recap & Takeaways

Ron Howrigon talks with Matt and Wendy about the overwhelming profit motives that have overtaken healthcare in America.

Ron Howrigon is President and CEO of Fulcrum Strategies. Ron has 18 years of experience in the Managed Care Industry as a Negotiator and Network Manager. He has held Senior Management level positions with three of the largest Managed Care Companies in the country, including Kaiser Permanente, CIGNA HealthCare and BlueCross BlueShield. His experience with these organizations covered the North East, Mid-Atlantic, and Western areas of the country.

The point of this isn’t just to have a bitch session. People are mad. They’re not only mad, but they are starting to feel really demoralized and do not know which way to turn. And so the whole point of this is Number 1 — It’s not just you. Number two — This is happening across the board. We all must come together and start talking about what the solutions are with one voice.

Not just physicians, but patients as well, and other clinicians and practitioners.

Harmful changes have occurred to healthcare very insidiously and slowly over time. The idea is to make people aware, to open their eyes through discussion, through information and through problem solving, to say, we are in a really bad place in health care right now on multiple levels, and we don’t get out of this by siloing what we’re doing.

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